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		<title>By: Republicrat</title>
		<link>http://www.groin.com/marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-3880</link>
		<dc:creator>Republicrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aaron,

In general, I agree with Vir here. 

But to concede a point, I do agree with you that he does fail to acknowledge the problems that exist with current legislation and the judicial system. Now, I don&#039;t know exactly where you stand, but the original intent of the various laws on divorce, child support, alimony, and etc. do exist for legitimate reasons. 

Historically, women have taken more risk in marriage than men do. Historically, men were the breadwinners while women were &quot;along for the ride&quot;. Should a man be able to divorce a woman at whim and leave her out on the streets to cope? That&#039;s why these laws exist and are needed. But even more so, men should be encouraged to stay in a marriage, especially if there are children involved. Marriage isn&#039;t extended dating. 

Now, the problem with modern society is that the original intent is being skewed by family courts, and the legislatures are taking an activist tone in some cases in modifying the laws to make it essentially punitive for the man in almost every case, regardless of actual fault. I&#039;m not interested in going into a detailed analysis here (I think the MRA blogs have done an excellent job so far, so it would be redundant). 

With that said, I would say that you are, unfortunately, manifesting yourself on this blog as the stereotypical MRA in the way that you see yourself as nothing but a victim and have this resentment towards people who, despite what troubles may exist, want to soldier on and make the best out of the situation. In other words, an analog to the stereotypical shrill feminist hag. 

As Nietzsche says &lt;i&gt;Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.&lt;/i&gt;.

Now I am not commenting on you in particular, because I don&#039;t know you, but I for one am getting tired of us married men who are working on families - you know, those of us who are perpetuating future generations - as &quot;loser betas&quot; for being successful and going against the grain. That&#039;s why this blog is necessary - it&#039;s an ongoing rebuttal against that sort of rhetoric and shining beacon for men to see that there is a way forward! I look forward to more posts from Vir.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron,</p>
<p>In general, I agree with Vir here. </p>
<p>But to concede a point, I do agree with you that he does fail to acknowledge the problems that exist with current legislation and the judicial system. Now, I don&#8217;t know exactly where you stand, but the original intent of the various laws on divorce, child support, alimony, and etc. do exist for legitimate reasons. </p>
<p>Historically, women have taken more risk in marriage than men do. Historically, men were the breadwinners while women were &#8220;along for the ride&#8221;. Should a man be able to divorce a woman at whim and leave her out on the streets to cope? That&#8217;s why these laws exist and are needed. But even more so, men should be encouraged to stay in a marriage, especially if there are children involved. Marriage isn&#8217;t extended dating. </p>
<p>Now, the problem with modern society is that the original intent is being skewed by family courts, and the legislatures are taking an activist tone in some cases in modifying the laws to make it essentially punitive for the man in almost every case, regardless of actual fault. I&#8217;m not interested in going into a detailed analysis here (I think the MRA blogs have done an excellent job so far, so it would be redundant). </p>
<p>With that said, I would say that you are, unfortunately, manifesting yourself on this blog as the stereotypical MRA in the way that you see yourself as nothing but a victim and have this resentment towards people who, despite what troubles may exist, want to soldier on and make the best out of the situation. In other words, an analog to the stereotypical shrill feminist hag. </p>
<p>As Nietzsche says <i>Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.</i>.</p>
<p>Now I am not commenting on you in particular, because I don&#8217;t know you, but I for one am getting tired of us married men who are working on families &#8211; you know, those of us who are perpetuating future generations &#8211; as &#8220;loser betas&#8221; for being successful and going against the grain. That&#8217;s why this blog is necessary &#8211; it&#8217;s an ongoing rebuttal against that sort of rhetoric and shining beacon for men to see that there is a way forward! I look forward to more posts from Vir.</p>
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		<title>By: vir</title>
		<link>http://www.groin.com/marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-3860</link>
		<dc:creator>vir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
You’re contributing to overpopulation with a family and kids, one of the worst crisis we’re facing as a society.
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To fight overpopulation, smart people should breed.

Smarter populations tend to be stable and not growing.

Dumber populations breed like rabbits.]]></description>
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You’re contributing to overpopulation with a family and kids, one of the worst crisis we’re facing as a society.
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<p>To fight overpopulation, smart people should breed.</p>
<p>Smarter populations tend to be stable and not growing.</p>
<p>Dumber populations breed like rabbits.</p>
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		<title>By: vir</title>
		<link>http://www.groin.com/marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-3859</link>
		<dc:creator>vir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
Well it has a few MAJOR flaws but I see where the blogger is going with it however he still FAILS to acknowledge the MASSIVE discrepancy in he laws that favor women.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The post isn&#039;t communicating well to you; the point was that these laws are just only if we have a social order that favors families. This means one that does not tolerate divorce as an easy outlet, and marriage as extended dating. MRAs fail not because they whine, but because their goals are illusory; they don&#039;t need feminism for men, they need a return to sacred and exclusive roles for men. You don&#039;t find this by altering laws to make marriage less serious and divorce easier.]]></description>
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Well it has a few MAJOR flaws but I see where the blogger is going with it however he still FAILS to acknowledge the MASSIVE discrepancy in he laws that favor women.
</p></blockquote>
<p>The post isn&#8217;t communicating well to you; the point was that these laws are just only if we have a social order that favors families. This means one that does not tolerate divorce as an easy outlet, and marriage as extended dating. MRAs fail not because they whine, but because their goals are illusory; they don&#8217;t need feminism for men, they need a return to sacred and exclusive roles for men. You don&#8217;t find this by altering laws to make marriage less serious and divorce easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.groin.com/marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-3835</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 03:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well it has a few MAJOR flaws but I see where the blogger is going with it however he still FAILS to acknowledge the MASSIVE discrepancy in he laws that favor women. Like all MRA basher&#039;s he simply focuses ONLY on the sexual politics side because that is the only argument anyone could use, that all MRA are a bunch of whiners, cry babies, hypocrites, etc, etc. An of course the internet is filled with cliche &quot;beta male chumps who can&#039;t get laid&quot;, strangely enough 99.999% of them run Anti-MRA blogs accusing MRAs as can&#039;t get laid cry babies, kinda ironic &amp; pathetic at the same time. Sounds like someone realizing all humans by default are stupid an life is survival of the fittest yet again he completely fails to acknowledge a system of enslavement that you can not avoid even if you want to unless you want to leave so called civilization an live in the woods somewhere.

Probably just another &quot;George Carlin&quot; wannabe in the making. 

His entire blog is filled with posts that only focus on one particular issue ignoring all factors, just meaningless banter with no scientific analysis. 

For example: Drugs should be illegal because stupid people will to to them like flies to shit an populate in record numbers filling society with idiots. However he fails to acknowledge the massive Police State that comes as a byproduct of this enforcement an that the drug was has FAILED miserably an contributed to massive debt which in turn creates a need for police to become happy FineUrAssess crazy to generate revenue. 

Or hence drug war is also a good excuse for elites to weasel in their tyranny measures.

Just another &quot;black &amp; white&quot; sum up of societies ills. 

Even I acknowledge there are no simple solutions. Even I acknowledge that most MRA&#039;s online are nothing but arm chair losers who use the MRA message to explain their sexless nights. Of course these are not MRA&#039;s, they are mostly labelled MRA&#039;s by captain save a hoes because it fits their sexist picture of what they believe MRA&#039;s to be &quot;crybabies&quot;. You will never see these gimps take on a real MRA because they&#039;d get chewed up an spat out. Let him take on Bernard Chapin, me, or Paul Elam, they won&#039;t because they know we use logic &amp; evidence to back up our arguments.

These types only go after those they think they can win an argument with, like a little angry wimp at a bar picking on someone they think they can beat up in a fight. 

Ultimately this blog is just opinion an opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

MRA&#039;s should not waste time negotiating or arguing with these useless assholes, who at their core as just mindless zombies. Focus on changing the laws an abiding by our codes of honor as men should, fuck gender politics, don&#039;t fall into stupid debates that bare no fruit but frayed nerves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it has a few MAJOR flaws but I see where the blogger is going with it however he still FAILS to acknowledge the MASSIVE discrepancy in he laws that favor women. Like all MRA basher&#8217;s he simply focuses ONLY on the sexual politics side because that is the only argument anyone could use, that all MRA are a bunch of whiners, cry babies, hypocrites, etc, etc. An of course the internet is filled with cliche &#8220;beta male chumps who can&#8217;t get laid&#8221;, strangely enough 99.999% of them run Anti-MRA blogs accusing MRAs as can&#8217;t get laid cry babies, kinda ironic &amp; pathetic at the same time. Sounds like someone realizing all humans by default are stupid an life is survival of the fittest yet again he completely fails to acknowledge a system of enslavement that you can not avoid even if you want to unless you want to leave so called civilization an live in the woods somewhere.</p>
<p>Probably just another &#8220;George Carlin&#8221; wannabe in the making. </p>
<p>His entire blog is filled with posts that only focus on one particular issue ignoring all factors, just meaningless banter with no scientific analysis. </p>
<p>For example: Drugs should be illegal because stupid people will to to them like flies to shit an populate in record numbers filling society with idiots. However he fails to acknowledge the massive Police State that comes as a byproduct of this enforcement an that the drug was has FAILED miserably an contributed to massive debt which in turn creates a need for police to become happy FineUrAssess crazy to generate revenue. </p>
<p>Or hence drug war is also a good excuse for elites to weasel in their tyranny measures.</p>
<p>Just another &#8220;black &amp; white&#8221; sum up of societies ills. </p>
<p>Even I acknowledge there are no simple solutions. Even I acknowledge that most MRA&#8217;s online are nothing but arm chair losers who use the MRA message to explain their sexless nights. Of course these are not MRA&#8217;s, they are mostly labelled MRA&#8217;s by captain save a hoes because it fits their sexist picture of what they believe MRA&#8217;s to be &#8220;crybabies&#8221;. You will never see these gimps take on a real MRA because they&#8217;d get chewed up an spat out. Let him take on Bernard Chapin, me, or Paul Elam, they won&#8217;t because they know we use logic &amp; evidence to back up our arguments.</p>
<p>These types only go after those they think they can win an argument with, like a little angry wimp at a bar picking on someone they think they can beat up in a fight. </p>
<p>Ultimately this blog is just opinion an opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.</p>
<p>MRA&#8217;s should not waste time negotiating or arguing with these useless assholes, who at their core as just mindless zombies. Focus on changing the laws an abiding by our codes of honor as men should, fuck gender politics, don&#8217;t fall into stupid debates that bare no fruit but frayed nerves.</p>
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		<title>By: Ouroboros</title>
		<link>http://www.groin.com/marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-3816</link>
		<dc:creator>Ouroboros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marriage is a fine and beautiful thing. It just so happens that our modern culture loves to destroy things that are sacred. 


Also, lets face it, a lot of women are *too* independent and mannish for man men&#039;s tastes now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marriage is a fine and beautiful thing. It just so happens that our modern culture loves to destroy things that are sacred. </p>
<p>Also, lets face it, a lot of women are *too* independent and mannish for man men&#8217;s tastes now.</p>
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		<title>By: mike gainer reigns here</title>
		<link>http://www.groin.com/marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-3812</link>
		<dc:creator>mike gainer reigns here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Total fantasy. You do NOT need to marry. You&#039;re contributing to overpopulation with a family and kids, one of the worst crisis we&#039;re facing as a society. Awareness and truth adds more to life anyways, try practicing that. The feeling of loneliness will pass trust me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Total fantasy. You do NOT need to marry. You&#8217;re contributing to overpopulation with a family and kids, one of the worst crisis we&#8217;re facing as a society. Awareness and truth adds more to life anyways, try practicing that. The feeling of loneliness will pass trust me.</p>
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